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and the nsa story was sort of the last straw for these guys. they've been a little bit disappointed. feeling as if obama hadn't really changed washington enough. and the nsa -- because when you look at where his numbers have peeled away -- it may be just a summer swoon and it will then all come back. it looks like it's coming from people under 40. it's sort of that -- that was that extra special sauce that he had in his coalition. >> talking about the base supporters. >> it was his base. it wasn't democrat base but it was his base. i think the nsa story in particular with those folks -- because every explanation coming out of his mouth, coming out of the administration, has just been washington speak. and it was just sort of like, oh, you're just another one of them. >> the president doesn't need to worry about voters anymore. it's the second term. >> i've heard this complaint. people say, oh, great -- >> why worry about voters? >> if you don't have an approval rating over 50%, you can't get things done. >> you can't get things done with an app
and the nsa story was sort of the last straw for these guys. they've been a little bit disappointed. feeling as if obama hadn't really changed washington enough. and the nsa -- because when you look at where his numbers have peeled away -- it may be just a summer swoon and it will then all come back. it looks like it's coming from people under 40. it's sort of that -- that was that extra special sauce that he had in his coalition. >> talking about the base supporters. >> it was his...
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and so the frustration is this, think about this, joe, you're the nsa. you're supposedly this all-powerful surveillance agency at this point. you seem to be able to know everything about everybody and cannot say what edward snowden took. what does that mean? they're always behind. they don't know what's coming next. and they don't know what's getting leaked next. they don't know what's coming out next, what they need to be transparent about to look like they're getting out in front of the things. it's been -- there's a fascinating little argument behind the scenes in -- between nsa and the west wing in particular, going, how come you guys can't figure out what edward snowden took. >> james carville, let's move on to politics. >> oh, no, man. me, politics? >> we got a couple polls out. talk first of all, a crazy guy that you know. >> yeah. >> terry mcauliffe. >> in the interest of disclosure i'm a big supporter of his. had a fund-raiser at my house for him. >> well, that is an absolute shock. i never saw that coming. there's a new poll out, and i'm going
and so the frustration is this, think about this, joe, you're the nsa. you're supposedly this all-powerful surveillance agency at this point. you seem to be able to know everything about everybody and cannot say what edward snowden took. what does that mean? they're always behind. they don't know what's coming next. and they don't know what's getting leaked next. they don't know what's coming out next, what they need to be transparent about to look like they're getting out in front of the...
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is it nsa stuff, what is it? it has become more common since the late 1990s to talk about this. obviously because the country did it, went through it in '98 with president clinton. it's not, you know, impeachment is always a political tool. there's always some political element to it, obviously, because there is no definition of high crimes and misdemeanors. what is that? every generation, every congress, whoever wants to do it can redefine it. it's a kind of crazy armageddon. and i think that it's a sign of a certain derangement as we've talked about a lot on the part of any opponent of an incumbent president to go to this because you're trying to delegitimize the president who holds the office. it happened when conservatives did it with bush. it happened with conservatives and clinton that was strong push to delegitimize the president and a lot of people did not believe deserved to be president and that's what this talk is about now. it's the deepest, most significant kind of attack that you could make on a president and it will be interesting to see if it's coburn just talkin
is it nsa stuff, what is it? it has become more common since the late 1990s to talk about this. obviously because the country did it, went through it in '98 with president clinton. it's not, you know, impeachment is always a political tool. there's always some political element to it, obviously, because there is no definition of high crimes and misdemeanors. what is that? every generation, every congress, whoever wants to do it can redefine it. it's a kind of crazy armageddon. and i think that...
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all the revelations about the nsa, the irs, these are other examples of what libertarians see as overreach by government that are getting people angry, to move to a libertarian position. another thing is generational. as you said before, the younger people are in favor of gay marriage, marijuana legalization, live and let live tolerance and that's a libertarian position as well. >> you keep talking like that and sam stein may jump parties. >> whoa. >> molly, thank you so much. we greatly appreciate it. molly's piece is on-line at the atlantic.com. al hunt, thank you so much. i forgive you for your bitter and angriness. the next time the braves come to town you may be able to take a couple. >> i doubt it. >> thanks a lot. still ahead on "morning joe," governor scott walker here. with us on set. but first, one of the best "price is right" guest entrances ever. not talking about shactman. that's next on news you can't use. so i'm checking out the jetta. 34 hwy mpg. check. no-charge scheduled maintenance. check. and here's the kicker... 0% apr for 60 months. and who got it? this guy. and who g
all the revelations about the nsa, the irs, these are other examples of what libertarians see as overreach by government that are getting people angry, to move to a libertarian position. another thing is generational. as you said before, the younger people are in favor of gay marriage, marijuana legalization, live and let live tolerance and that's a libertarian position as well. >> you keep talking like that and sam stein may jump parties. >> whoa. >> molly, thank you so much....